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	<title>Comments on: Wine Wisdoms #37: What&#8217;s Behind a Rose</title>
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		<title>By: magenta hurboquitz</title>
		<link>http://blog.wineenthusiast.com/2009/07/16/wine-wisdoms-37-whats-behind-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-2704</link>
		<dc:creator>magenta hurboquitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah red wine is great. plain and simple.......best when pure......but also quite delightful when mixed with a cheaper deeper brand....it causes one to be slightly more cautious and skeptical ....but still the same zest and punch as pure.....:D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah red wine is great. plain and simple&#8230;&#8230;.best when pure&#8230;&#8230;but also quite delightful when mixed with a cheaper deeper brand&#8230;.it causes one to be slightly more cautious and skeptical &#8230;.but still the same zest and punch as pure&#8230;..:D</p>
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		<title>By: Hoke Harden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoke Harden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all due respect, I don&#039;t believe saignee is the &quot;best method&quot; for making rose&#039;.

It&#039;s one way, sure, and that way can make good rose&#039;.  But I think the best way, if there has to be a best, is the vin de presse method.  The difference is that in the vin de presse method, where essentially the winemaker does a very light press, followed by a brief soaking for some color, then (usually) vinifies each variety separately and does a blending post-fermentation.

Saignee&#039;, on the other hand, means the rose&#039; is basically a side product of making red---but the basic intent is to make a red!  That&#039;s an important difference, I think.

Vin de Presse---because they are intended to be and made specifically to be, rose&#039;---are generally lighter and more delicate than reds.  They are rose&#039;, not red wannabes.

(Now, having said that, let me also say I&#039;ve had some perfectly fine saignee-style rose&#039; wines, so I&#039;m not dissing them.  But I certainly wouldn&#039;t say &quot;Saignee is the best method for making rose&#039;.&quot;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, I don&#8217;t believe saignee is the &#8220;best method&#8221; for making rose&#8217;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one way, sure, and that way can make good rose&#8217;.  But I think the best way, if there has to be a best, is the vin de presse method.  The difference is that in the vin de presse method, where essentially the winemaker does a very light press, followed by a brief soaking for some color, then (usually) vinifies each variety separately and does a blending post-fermentation.</p>
<p>Saignee&#8217;, on the other hand, means the rose&#8217; is basically a side product of making red&#8212;but the basic intent is to make a red!  That&#8217;s an important difference, I think.</p>
<p>Vin de Presse&#8212;because they are intended to be and made specifically to be, rose&#8217;&#8212;are generally lighter and more delicate than reds.  They are rose&#8217;, not red wannabes.</p>
<p>(Now, having said that, let me also say I&#8217;ve had some perfectly fine saignee-style rose&#8217; wines, so I&#8217;m not dissing them.  But I certainly wouldn&#8217;t say &#8220;Saignee is the best method for making rose&#8217;.&#8221;)</p>
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